So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] [/quote] My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. [/quote] People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Torrey Pines South, huh? Short hitter compared to the average WRXer The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Distance to Apex 195.9 Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. %PDF-1.5 link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. Have a look at his driver and 6 Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) Close suggestions Search Search Search Search If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] I don't measure my driver distance. Apex Height 112' 11" My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S My average distance was 235-245. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. Yes! It is all about the short game The performance of these wedges really was impressive. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). Spin Rate 2,645.8 When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. Distance to Apex 195.9 Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. 2 were over 320. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? That's what I think. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. And that was 12 years ago. any 7 iron data ? When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. WebJon Rahm TrackMan Numbers. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. Am I as good as tour pro? Or should i take control on the distance i have? Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. I hit the same. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. Skill Triumphs Over All! Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high SM5 53, 59 [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? How Often Do Pros Hit Driver? Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. [/quote] endobj I have played golf for 22 years. Especially the average driving distance data. Not As Much As You Think! On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. Dont think they ever release that stuff. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. It's good for some laughs. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. That's my opinion at least. I'll pass. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. I think you wish you hit it further. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. Top 100 Player Analysis. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. Does that make sense? I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. More photos from the event here. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Im your AMA although Im trending down. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. It's the short game. [/quote] My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . Lol, so true.. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] For those of you interested in how these averages compare to individual pros we have listed in the table below the average stock carry yardages for a selection of the top pros when it comes to how far they hit their driver. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. I think you wish you hit it further. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. It's good for some laughs. They are clean and contemporary. [/quote] Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. It's not the length that makes a pro. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe Simmer down, all. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. 398 were here. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I think you wish you hit it further. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Clear editor. Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Carry Efficiency 2.51 This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. work on your short game. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. 714 AP2 4-p I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. 3. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) [/quote] This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Playing golf as early as two-years-old, Justin learned all aspects of the game. My longest drive was 270. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. I know I hit the ball a long way though. When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps.