I even got a t-shirt that says DISCO on it, which prompts inquiries about my musical tastes of past decades when I was a twenty-something, lol. Mary Wiseman as Tilly in episode 402, Anomaly. Episodes will be. It just came to me and wanted your opinion. Sometimes it worked over amazing distances other times not. Barclays ticks do get really annoying. Where did all the good writers go?? For people who dont know, it had to do with Voyager leading a fleet of ships going back to the Delta Quadrant a few years after Voyager arrived home. Be sure to watch Mary Wiseman "Killying it" as Ensign Sylvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery. Gotta side with Sascha here. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. Shes a geeky, nerdy character, so wonderfully over the top, like so many of us in the fandom. Great interview, Dawn. 108 comments so far. Correct me if I am wrong, but did she not have to take a command course at some point? However, if we got to see Tilly gradually improve herself. The increasingly repeated notion that Discovery has saved the Trek franchise with emotion and humanity is dubious revisionist history. Shaming is one thing. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. At the other end, underweight is also unhealthy and associated with other risks, but gets less negative attention in entertainment. For what its worth Picard has an excellent cast, male and female, it just feels they are one or two notches above their discovery peers, maybe again due to writing/direction. ;). Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. You either think about what you can contribute to society or how society owes you handouts, respect for above-mentioned bad habits, fictitious pronouns even. Star Trek: Why Tilly & Burnham Are Discovery's Best Friendship I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. Xanadu? Definitely not a dig at the actress, she is only delivering what the directors and producers have asked her to deliver. Take me to the stars and tell me a story. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. There is such a difference between having criticisms of the way the characters are written and criticizing the actors performance/craft and their leadership in the company. In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. If that happens, I'm betting she'll be a part of it. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. Exactly. And with Troi being a betazoid, thats why she was on the bridge. When all evidence points to her character not being loved or even liked (the actress is fine; shes been poorly handled by the writers (Michelle Paradise). Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. Hopefully its . As an actor of 20 years myself I can say for SMG that her acting ability is affected by her accent and delivery due to her accent . That was an awfully fast turnaround. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! Mary Wiseman Talks Curvy Killy On 'Star Trek: Discovery'; Kate Mulgrew Tilly's Discovery Season 4 Exit & Season 5 Future Explained Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. Keep up the great work ladies! Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. I think theres room for it. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. Shes responsible for her subordinates and to lead by example. Episodes will be available on Fridays internationally on Netflix. Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. Most actresses on TV, if theyre 58 probably weigh 120# or less. Mary Wiseman is a beautiful lady as is Sonequa Martin-Green. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. Not everyone is going to agree with you in life but to accuse others of sullying the memories of people they didnt know existed until you replied to their posts may provoke far more negative responses. She would have flushed out of SFA in her first year. Tilly looks great and her weight is a not a issue. New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. Even Picard has his own show. And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. It just happened. Although they didnt really use secondary characters wellthey still dont. In the season four finale Coming Home, Mary Wiseman returned as Lt. Tilly, now a Starfleet Academy leader working with cadets and Admiral Vance to coordinate the evacuation and defense of Earth on Federation HQ. These are not well-written or well-acted characters, and they weaken the series every time they show up. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Youve got to hand it to Harry Kim. Being encouraged to eat only what ones body needs is another thing entirely. Thats just a matter of preference. Saru would then recognize the potential in her, give her opportunities to build her self esteem and confidence, and wed get a good arc that doesnt seem forced like it does now. Well, the entire point is she absolutely looks the way I expect her to. Its really just certain comments sections and Facebook garbage holes. Its odd that the bridge crew still feels in the background although they are being used more. In fact most of their fears and phobias were explored in various episodes. Im mostly just curious if Tillys removal from Disco came from Wiseman looking to do other projects or if they wrote it in and broke the news that she was getting cut as a regular. And it all happened OFF SCREEN! Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. I never felt that what has come before should define the franchise in the future. I would not say it isnt a valid creative decision to try this approach, especially in an age where we are emphasizing the need for self-care, its just not to my taste. Well, its certainly a good thing that Tilly is a fictional character, and neither she nor the woman who plays her (Wiseman) is in todays real-world Navy.. I keep saying this but its a great time to be a Star Trek fan again! Its all relative, but I dont see a lot of actors being body-shamed. After the first two seasons of high pressure I thought I would have seen more growth. She served aboard the USS Discovery while still a cadet in 2256, later commissioned as an ensign . Makes sense. Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. Wait I havent watched season 4, nor will I ever after the stupidity that was season 3 But now shes a leader at the academy?! She seems to be a lovely human being and all that in real life but her acting is not the best. They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. 'Star Trek: Discovery' Theory: There Is Something About Grudge Way too many issues. Thats undeniable. Star Trek: Discovery season 4: everything we know | TechRadar And second of all, just to dig into it, you dont always get to see a woman like me in that sort of position. By existing? Tilly is Trekdom. She is absolutely beautiful just as she is. If you cant understand that message, then you are very much part of the problem. Maybe sociological issues? There are admittedly quite a few other Starfleet officers Scotty and Riker, for example who prove that being chunky is still a thing in the future. Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. Mary Wiseman Weight Gain - Before & After Photos Exposed - Mixedarticle I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? The moment they decided to incorporate a new character with basically the same characteristics (a young, socially awkward, but very smart ensign) they ruined Tilly. For me, generally speaking, when Barclay or Trois mom appeared it signaled a terrible episode in advance. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? Shes magnetic. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. My preference would be to set it post TUC but quite frankly any other established era would be fine. By: TrekMovie.com Staff I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. Do I want to be Sisko or Picard or Archer then most likely yes. Understanding? I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. Star Trek: Discovery actor Mary Wiseman has a - Daily Star Trek News The following contains spoilers from Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale. Having Tilly be one was justdumb. The ships shrink should not be a Command level position and in fact would make sense to be on the CMOs staff. The fourth episode of the new season of Star Trek: Discovery ("All is Possible") arrived this morning and it has fans buzzing about Lt. Sylvia Tilly. But then again Im not a troll. I know Gene Rodenberry never wanted Starfleet to be portrayed as a military outfit, but this has gone so far in the opposite direction that its being run like a pre-school participation awards ceremony. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. Yet, she is. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? Shes fantastic and looks fantastic doing it! 'Star Trek: Discovery': Mary Wiseman on Tilly's Big Career Decision What do you mean? And to have somebody step in and defend you is really meaningful. As I said Tilly has the same issues. To be clear, my opinion on a show has no bearing on how it helped you at a terrible time in your life. Thanks for the heads up about Beyer and the Voyager books. I see them as similar. Cant believe some fans complain about character A or B or C. I am sorry, but the obsessive complaining about Sonequa/Michael or Mary/Tilly, for who they are, is so rude. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. The doctor was usually the therapist. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. She let go in S4 of her parents expectations and embraced a new purpose. Barclay was another unrealistic character that never shouldve made it in to Starfleet. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. It inspired her to switch careers. It was a novelty in his first story and they turned it on its head when he got zapped and made super-smart, but most of the time hes very trying, especially when he gets thrown onto Voyager.