In the run up to buying an M10 Ive been reading a lot of reviews, and have found the M262 is rarely mentioned in them. We were perfectly happy in the film days when KODAK or FUJI(film) updated our sensor with a new emulsion. The entire camera feels built to last and like a well engineered tool in use. Let's try another side by side Leica Monochrom - 50 Lux - click for larger and crop - Leica M 240 - click for larger. Compared to the M9 Ive found less of a problem with magenta shift, especially in skin tones, though its fair to say the bias is still toward magenta as opposed the the green bias I found in my Sonys especially the older and cheapest ones that had frankly horrible colour-science. The beauty of the Leica M262 is what they took away.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'35mmc_com-box-4','ezslot_16',182,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-4-0'); That being said, even with major Leica models the upgrade path involves such small incremental changes. All photographs and text appearing on 35mmc.com are the exclusive property of the named author (except where stated otherwise) and are protected by copyright. May be different sensor calibration? Having run the gamut of all the Ms, Ive settled on these two as my main M system and I suggest to others who cant shake the M bug to do something similar. It was mentioned in LFI first issue of 2016. This might be the better screen, or it might be residual live-view-denial telling me that the more simple M262 is a better camera for me. Ultimately, if youre looking for all the bells and whistles, you certainly wont find them on this camera. Yes, it adds a Wi-Fi connectivity, which is something completely new in my workflow, but the overall experience is so much simpler. without having to transfer the images to the computer first. I think the sensor is the same, only the signal processing is different because there is no LV. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. For example, I have seen an as new M240 from a Leica Store for 2,495 and a Voigtlander Ultron 50mm for c.700. I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. But the M9 for me has so many characteristics, beyond specs, iso performance or touchscreen blah blah blah. The M10 is akin in size to an M6TTL and this is a benefit. I would still rather have the m10 over all the others though, but I definitely see you point. This screen has very good focus peaking and an exposure waveform overlay that I find invaluable! Like most people, I suspect. It has two memory card slots, allowing you to store more photos without switching cards. Waiting for the fishy in the little dishy by Gil Aegerter, Lava Lizard on Marine Iguana by ZimmWisdom. It was designed and released after the M240 to offer an option to photographers who didn't need the bells and whistles the M240 had to offer. (they really have me suckered in dont they?!). Fortunately, when the image popped up in Lightroom, it was fine or at least it was little different to a photo that I might have expected out of the M262. Thats why the M-D 262 and the M 262 have the same type name. CIPA is an independent, standard measurement that determines how many shots a camera can take before the battery dies. On the M240 the highlight from focus peaking is often not apparent at all. Actually, a large part of this is because they dont often inspire me to write about them whilst I own them, yet I hate to see them go without doing them the justice of sharing a few thoughts.var cid='8222364248';var pid='ca-pub-7054871687658000';var slotId='div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0';var ffid=1;var alS=1002%1000;var container=document.getElementById(slotId);container.style.width='100%';var ins=document.createElement('ins');ins.id=slotId+'-asloaded';ins.className='adsbygoogle ezasloaded';ins.dataset.adClient=pid;ins.dataset.adChannel=cid;if(ffid==2){ins.dataset.fullWidthResponsive='true';} The Leica M240 has done me proud whilst the M262 has been away, though the experience has not be without a couple of surprises, so I thought Id write a little bit about what Ive found.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[728,90],'35mmc_com-box-3','ezslot_9',179,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0'); First off, I should probably say that this isnt going to be a proper review Ive written so many reviews about Leica rangefinder cameras and their subtle differences that the idea of writing my thoughts about every facet of this camera just doesnt appeal at all and thats despite this one having more to offer than any that Ive shot before. The resolution is given as a compound value, comprised of horizontal and vertical pixels. Although it may be possible to choose among other frame rates, those recordings usually have lower resolutions. To each his own. Im an auto-ISO guy so the dial is nice for the little I use it. . This can be used to capture moving objects using a fast shutter speed, or to take images in low light without using a flash. Mostly because I wanted to shoot below 0.7m and Id have to use Live View for that. Finally, a digital camera that truly feels like a good old analog Leica. I just recently bought a Leica M262, interestingly I read your blog and it actually helped encourage me to buy it. It was that feeling that having less kit would do me good This became the excuse I needed to change up to the M10. Itd be a waste of time when you can go and find other reviews that no doubt do high ISO comparisons with other brands of cameras etc. LV is handy for confirming RF calibration. I like to put my camera to my eye this live-view lark just doesnt appeal to me was the sort of sentence I likely uttered. I've always wanted a Leica and was thinking of picking up a used M262 or M240 to replace my Fuji. As an M10 owner I should say that yes, this camera is definitely a less is more sort of gadget. Paste as plain text instead, Equally, if I dont find anything particularly bad to say, thats got to be a good thing too, but it doesnt really help in the process of finding things to say. The build quality of the M 262 is impeccable. I love the colors from the sensor as a whole, but one thing I dont like is rendering of skin tones. I cant. Ill have to dig out an online manual , I got an 262 you have to press SET after choosing- only with 3 button possiblewith latest software (2021). I like Roger a lot hes written for this site before, and we chatted a fair bit around the time. The price is$5195/4050. Id prefer to do this with the Leica as its the camera I use most often and so the battery is always charged with space on a memory card. If you intend to use lenses wider than 28mm or longer than 135mm Liveview and EVF are very useful, also macro photography is much easier (essential with the new 90mm macro lens and macro adapter) or if you need video. Id mounted the lens to my M262 and was pondering how I was going to get used to shooting a 35mm lens again in such a short period []. By More about being to see the settings at a glance, rather than just be able to change them easily. As such, it felt like itd be the perfect camera for me. Theres very little real difference between the two cameras so it really depends on what you can find to suit your budget - I certainly wouldnt hold out for one if you can find the other in decent condition. That said, I dont shoot Leicas for rapidity.Start Up. I missed his musings in AP. That breaks the rules by my measure, unfortunately . Given my choice to upgrade to the M10, possibly the most pertinent issue with the ISO settings is the inability to set or see the chosen ISO without pressing a button and looking at the back of the camera. There is no way to see the chosen ISO until the shot is taken and checking it in the image preview dialogue. A higher megapixel count means that the camera is capable of capturing more details. TheLeica M (Typ 262) has a pared-down feature set, an extra quiet shutter unit and a lower price than theM Typ 240. As the cameras are meant to have identical sensors, do we think this is just new owner's biased impressions (nothing wrong with that btw) is could there be something in this? That said, M10 GAS is real. The M9 and CCD sensor. Value for money, incredible quality. Otherwise, the two cameras are similar since the 262 is really just a pared-down version of the 240 and if its mainly the rangefinder experience that you are after then you cant go wrong with either. By continuing to browse our site, you agree to our use of cookies. I remember initially thinking that the colours coming out of the M10 files seemed thin when compared to those of the M240 and the photos in your review of the M262 have reminded me of that. This was a heretical change from earlier Leicas. I currently own a 262. The Leica M10 's physical controls are logical, simple, and offer the right amount of resistance. Also for helping critical focus wide open at close distance. One is not better or worse than the other, they are just different. The upgrade to the M10 feels like its based on some fairly thin justifications, though I suspect (hope) that in practice just like swapping from M9 to M262 I will be pleasantly surprised by the fact that I find it brings more to the table than I expected. Unfortunately, my business partner has also vetoed the idea of me selling both M240 and M262 to buy an M10. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It has been a bit of an adjustment shooting with such a stripped-down camera but Im really learning to love it a lot. We've selected a group of cameras that are easy to keep with you, and that can adapt to take photos wherever and whenever something memorable happens. by Charles Higham, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wong+Laica+M+262, https://www.35mmc.com/14/10/2017/fuji-x100f-fuji-lost-sight-elegant-original-concept/, A Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 ZM Distagon Review - An Optical Wonder! Lastly, its kind of neat that these two are sort of a match- but different enough to stand out on my desk when I go to grab one for a shoot. I currently shoot with a Fuji X-Pro2 and love it. All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. We were using the Sony cameras for video, so as I often do, I was shooting stills with the Leica. They've been even used in a documentary made by a friend of mine. 20% better video recording quality (main camera), Has continuous autofocus when recording movies, has continuous autofocus when recording movies. You and Roger Hicks. With less than full coverage, you may have to crop your photos afterward to get them looking perfect. You can click any image for a larger view which is the best way to view it as this site compresses these down to what you see below . The type of viewfinder that the camera has. JPG Settings can be on the user assignable first screen and from that quickly turn on/off Monochrome. These were live-view using the screen on the back or a slot in electronic viewfinder and video. I have an M246 where just holding down the ISO button, turning the thumbwheel to change it then releasing does the job. Family moments are precious and sometimes you want to capture that time spent with loved ones or friends in better quality than your phone can manage. To make pictures, those are good bodies to be used with good lens. I am sure you have seen the funny Video of Kai Wong:https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wong+Laica+M+262, I have indeed, thanks, I shall take another look its been a while!Sounds like youve made a good choice!I have recently picked up a TL to use along side the forthcoming M10 they both use the same Visoflex, Im going to take the charitable route here but Pera Detlics comment may be interpreted as Leicas are expensive and Pera doesnt have the matching skill set to justify buying one.I also feel that way. I cant even work out how to hold the Leica M240 for video, and whilst it has focus peaking, it certainly doesnt have the features the Atomos brings to the table. Leica M Typ 240. The following dropbox link to a small group of images hopefully illustrate these subtle but apparent colour densities. As I understand technically m240 is similar to m262 (only some features, but not sensor). Of course there will be technological advances and all kinds of new features. I think it is a very cool and stripped down digital M camera that I purchased used to compliment my M3 (I use the M3 with a 50mm and 90mm lens). The M9 was a simple digital rangefinder with limited features and menu options, the M262 has even less in the menu and a slightly improved user interface. The sensor is not the same, by the way. I guess that how much I miss the live-view will define how soon, if at all, I start saving my pennies for a swap. Thankfully with the M10 they've returned to the old system. Can you advice,please, if you still own both cameras: why some people says that m262 perform better colors? The M240 is a camera where perhaps 50% of the image is created in camera, 50% in computer. The resulting image will have less quality than when staying within the native ISO range, but it can be useful in certain situations. Image quality will be essentially the same. Theres a certain robustness or heft to the M240/M262 files that I personally dont see in the M10 files, and that is likely a result of the different sensors used in the cameras. To each his own, indeed!Ive never seen one in real life mad to think Ive ordered a camera of that value without handling it. I wont go into too much more detail now, but for saying that unlike the M240 and M262 that Ive otherwise used since the M9, the Leica M10-P really feels like it has []. It is great way to capture things like the setting sun, or clouds moving across the sky. Ive spent the last month or so shooting with a Leica M [typ 240]. I posted this as a person of experience. Yes, the M240s menu is busier, but once I have the camera set up to my liking I dont really venture into the menu often. If not, moderators please delete this post. Dont get me wrong Hamish, if I didnt have to give the Taxman an additional sum equal to a Leica M10 last Spring, Id have been tempted! Resolution is an essential indicator of a screen's image quality, representing the maximum amount of pixels that can be shown on the screen. Not because its a bad camera, quite the opposite; its a fantastic camera, I just find there to be so little to report or to get overly excited about. The big round dial on the back of the M9 was always tricky to use. The Leica M-D Typ 262 was released in 2016 and is already rather difficult to find. Any help you learned people would be able to give me as to M240 vs M262 and a good lenswould be invaluable and very much appreciated. With a higher light sensitivity (ISO level), the sensor absorbs more light. It doesnt even have any way to connect the Atomos to it. Phase-detection autofocus is much faster than a contrast detection autofocus, allowing for sharper images. Well worth seeking out. All features aside, my lust was triggered by the drastic reduction in size. As such, the Leica M262 is possibly better seen as a sidestep rather than a step forward in the Leica lineup. I used the M240 for over two years before upgrading to the M10 a year and a half ago. The combination of the live view and the advantages I had begun to feel a physical ISO dial could bring to the table were then enough to have me wondering how much of my kit Id have to sell to change up to the M10. November 7, 2013 December 8, 2013 Peter . This friendly dig on Facebook from Alex Hakimi somewhat sums up how ridiculous all this really is: if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_11',181,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-4-0'); Anyway, the point is, at one stage, not all that long ago, I was very happy with the M262 and didnt really feel like the M10 could possibly bring any advantages to me. Our camera evaluations and conclusions are based . Having live-view is great and the screen is an improvement but its too big for an M and the files look/feel like something that came out of a Sony. It depends on your needs. Leica M262 M-P M10 M262 Leica M-E . Overall, I really enjoyed the simplicity of using the 262 which comes very close to the M3 experience in my opinion. Same lens, same settings - desaturated during RAW conversion. If you intend to use lenses wider than 28mm or longer than 135mm Liveview and EVF are very useful, also macro photography is much easier (essential with the new 90mm macro lens and macro adapter) or if you need video. The LEICA M typ 240 offers a much quieter shutter than the M9, as well as LEICA's first option for an external electronic viewfinder (EVF), the . The EOS R6 II arrives in one of the most competitive parts of the market, facing off against some very capable competition. I use along the two M240/262/etc. Learn how your comment data is processed. Yes, the image quality of the Leica M (type 240) is a step down from the Leica M9. Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) A m262 is limited to the lens choice as it rangefinder view only. The better a device's color depth the more color nuances it can distinguish. It's slightly lighter than the 240 and I have no use for video nor live view in a Leica. As John said it beforeendless upgrades, hours to spend to edit files, digital, you take even more picturesthe iso dial is nice, but I prefer (for the sake of creativity versus being too convenient) Film and stick to my a la carte M7 with one lensecalms down your mind. . Pera I think you might be giving a little to much benefit of the doubt there . Youve often been a voice of reason in my ear on this website, John. Thanks. as first digital Leica M, I'd take M (typ 262) but if the M (typ240) is cheaper, go ahead. . I dont need to get excited by them dont get me wrong, theres fun in a camera that provides some sort of novelty initially, but longer-term I just need my cameras to work in a way that suits me. High quality battery charger is a handy companion for digital shooting. The M240 is a bit slow on the uptake, but I generally leave the camera on while on photo walks so not a real issue.Lock-ups. I use the 1.4 magnifier with my old 90mm tele-elmarit and an external viewfinder with my voigtlander 21mm f1.4 both work just fine for me. At which point I bought a stand-in M240 and I discovered the joys of live view on an m-mount Leica. I then had a feeling that Im sure a lot of people who have too many cameras have once in a while You might know it yourself? Aluminium body makes is nice and light. Here are my thoughts on the M240 alongside my second hand and limited knowledge of the M10. Weight is certainly a thing though! Usability is great (with some of the limitations you mentioned), and image quality of the 262 is certainly superb, and the main reason (aside from usability and a good sensor), at least for me, the Leica M glass, is a topic somebody else can cover much better than I can. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. For compact cameras, a focus motor is usually built-in. M-E "CCD" M9 M9-P CCD. It is certainly one of the most economical full frame digital Leica M cameras out there, however, still a very expensive camera, even used. . I know thats not a crime, I also know it has nothing to do with how much skill I have as a photographer. Fortunately, whilst the control of ISO isnt quite perfect, I have found the way exposure compensation works on the Leica M262 to be a big step up from the M9. Best wishes to you all and thanks again for your help. Be the first. And given the choice between keeping the M262 and the M240, despite what the Leica M240 brings to the table, it doesnt win out over M262. Most of the digital M bodies are going to offer a satisfactory experience for the average first time Leica user. And if you are not interested in movies or EVF, as a.Noctilux said, you can ignore them. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The color profile is quite different too, with more electric blues and purer reds. When the Leica M262 was released, Leica proudly told the world that the menu had been reduced to two screens worth of features. I am seeing a few posts by M262 / M-D owners stating that there is slightly improved image quality and even less banding at higher ISOs on the M262 series cameras. The fix is to remove the bottom plate and remove the battery, but this is not a solution for when the decisive moment is at hand.Low Light Performance. I am looking to get into the Leica M systemhave been on various of the Leica Fora, discussing the merits of an M9 / M9P. A device's overall image quality score considers: color depth, dynamic range and low light performance. I need a new 50mm lens. RE: the ISO issue. The view taken by some Leica users when the M240 was released was that features like live-view and video had no place on a Leica. I would have bought a 90 Macro lens if I had live view on the camera even though Ive already got a Nikon with 105 Macro. There is a slight sense that this camera isnt a major model it feels a tiny bit like theres a few too many buttons, and that the body of the camera is a little hollow, but in practice these things go unnoticed. If you half press the shutter to leave the menu without pressing SET the ISO remains what it was set to before. I took the M240 because it offeres live view. Paste as plain text instead, As I talk about in my M9 review, the screen on that camera really is very crap, so this did feel like a big enough deal to make the jump. I think either will be a fine way into a Leica. Im used to focus peaking from shooting video with the Sony cameras, so it was such a short leap to press the LV button and take photos in a way that felt familiar. For more articles on 35mmc about the subject matter discussed here, please click one of the following tag links: Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience. The Leica M9/ M8 B&W JPEGs can be created 95-99% in camera and I would say my black and white film images are 88% in camera/film developing, 2% scanning, 10% in computer to remove dust and do any basic darkroom style adjustments. I upgraded from the M9 on single basis that I wanted a camera with a better screen. He mentioned that he drives older vehicles in order to be able to afford just the kit he wants.Agreed with John Smith. I will stick with my film Leica for now. This means the image will be stabilised regardless of what lens is being used. M240 v. M246 v. M262 v. Monochrom 246. I have both and haven't noticed any difference but I haven't done a side by side comparison. I decided that I wanted to keep the one camera that can do close to everything I need in the digital world (and for me, this includes personal and occasional professional work, mostly product still photography, but also videography). (Leica M (Typ 262)), Unknown. The firmware adds 6-bit code support and correction profiles for new lenses . In fact, I pressed the LV (for live-view) button on the camera before I even took a photo. Hence, I literally could not give a single poop what Para thinks . Image quality is exceptionally good across the native ISO range, the weight has been decreased substantially, and . It was the third major iteration of colour digital Leica M . I am including these 2 images taken from the same spot focusing on the same scene. Even when recording scenes with a lot of fast movements, the videos are sharp and clear. I find it very quick. So, yeah, as I said, video is just not something I want to do with a Leica M camera! I have not seen that anywhere in the promotional material. Hes written some good books, too, some with his partner, Frances. As I mentioned in my recent post about the M240, the stripped-back interface was exactly reason . Indeed, I am an m10 owner who misses my m9. Hello. This might sound like a small criticism, and Im sure many wouldnt even notice or care, but actually it goes back to what I was saying earlier about familiarity. This made me think; maybe I could get on with the video features too? All other things aside, they, Leica M cameras, are unique. Epson RD1 style I loved my RD1! Thanks!These new Nikons look fairly amazing I do wish theyd been quicker to market though!M10 review I guess it depends on how much it inspires a post out of me its the first new Leica Digital camera Ive ever bought, and with it being new/current, I might try and squeeze something out sooner rather than later. Leica M9 vs. M240; M240: More Thoughts; Leica M240: Final Verdict; Leica M9 sharpness vs. Sony RX1R, Nikon D800E, Fuji X100s; My camera of the year for 2013; Related. For the M240, forget it. p.s. When using the M10 in aperture priority mode I dial the EV down to -0.7. : very useful. Anyway, Im firmly off topic at this point, but almost two years on and I have no gripes at all with the M10. If you arent aware of these lenses, they focus down to about 40cm. No one ever uses video functionality of the240 anyways. The last four images you posted are the best images Ive seen from an M240. I wish I did. Yet all the buttons on it and the LCD still have me pining for Leicas. So as I said in the first few paragraphs, now its on its way out, I thought I should do it the justice of writing a few parting words about it. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. I dont need such features on my Leica rangefinders these are real cameras that I use properly, I dont need live-view with my real cameras! BECOME A MEMBER to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMbqwh98qO5wWowtQjIK8ig/joinEXCLUSIVE PRESETS FOR IMAGES CAPTURED WITH LEICA CAMERAS:. A raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor. My GAS was satisfied with a Z6 with the M-to-Z adapter. I really enjoyed the m60 when I shot it a few years back, but for practical day-to-day photography, I think a screen suits my digital shooting desires better.And besides, the little flip out thumb-rest?! USA Distributor of MCM Equipment leica m240 vs m262 image quality For system cameras, having a focus motor in the camera's body allows you to use a wide range of lenses, including lenses which do not have their own focus motor. Now, I should just say at this point that when I first got my Leica M262 I found the exact opposite. I have gotten perfectly good images with the M-240 at ISO 2000 and at 3200 the images are still manageable with a small amount of noise reduction in LR. Then out of curiosity, I've bough at fair price ( sh price dropped when M10 came, I couldn't resist) former digital Ms (M240, M-D, M246). It seemed it was not much larger than an M7; that, alone, was enough to make me decide I would own one someday. A few years later I sold all my Nikon DLSR kit and switched to Sony full frame A7 cameras and began to realise just how useful it can be. - 35mmc, https://matthewtrader.com/leica-m262-review-after-photographing-my-nieces-5th-birthday-party, Nikon 28ti and 35ti - Mini-Review - By Ahmed Al Shorouqi, 5 frames with the Nikon FM2 & Agfa APX 400 in my Paris - By Martina Rigotti, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. However, the megapixel count is not the only important element determining the quality of an image. Help us by suggesting a value. Either way, its the M262 that I want to keepif(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_18',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Though I must admit, this experience has had me thinking that an M10 would be better suited to me now. I had recently bought a Nikon 50mm f/2 LTM lens and had mounted it on the M240. Thankfully with the M10 theyve returned to the old system. For me, theres no place for a comment like Peras. Nice review.I bought a m262 this year when one of my pensions surprisingly came out.I wanted1] a digital leica m2] no video3] no live view4] no EVFBut i like to sometimes review a pic when i am out and about.The 262 is perfect for me and i love it.with the m-e 240 being announced i have noticed that used 262 cameras have already dropped in price so its possible i can buy a dream 2nd body.Meaning another 262. And I like the grainy renderings for some scenes.Live View. M-D, M-P, M240 and M262 photos. By Exphotog, A Love Affair With The Leica M-D 262 by Ong Sien Hong - 35mmc, Initial experiments with a Leica M10-P and a Nikon 35mm 2.8 PC Shift Lens - 35mmc, (Mis)adventures with a Minolta Himatic 7s - By Matt Evans, 5 Frames with the new Voigtlander Color-Skopar Vintage Line 21mm f/3.5 By John Scott, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. I do think the 262 files have an edge over the 240. There are two ways to experience 35mmc without the adverts: Paid Subscription - 2.99 per month and youll never see an advert again! Focusing that close without rangefinder coupling is of course quite difficult unless you have live-view. !if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-box-4','ezslot_13',182,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-4-0'); One way or another, in the time Ive been using the camera, Ive not got used to this little issue, though I have at least learned to live with it. I too prefer the more stripped back feature set of the M9, M240, and M10. The color profile is quite different too, with more electric blues and purer reds. Now, Im writing this after my M262 has come back from Germany (it only took a couple of months!! I upgrade cameras, selling them and adding a little bit of funds from what disposable income I do have, also relying on credit a bit too much. On same first menus screen can have File Format to pick DNG or DNG+JPG or JPG only.When you get the M10 Ill be interested to hear how you like the B&W jpg vs. your Monochrome. The LEICA M typ 240 is the world's second full-frame mirrorless camera. This includes the M10-R, M10-P, M10 Monochrom, M10, and M10-D from the current generation, as well as the M (Typ 240), M-P (Typ 240), M (Typ 262), M-D (Typ 262) and the M Monochrom (Typ 246) from the prior generation.